A Look At Historic Scouting Reports

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Padres
   
Dodgers (ss)
 
1:05pm PT
   
Glendale, Ariz.
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Venable
 
2B
Gordon
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Denorfia
 
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Crawford
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Alonso
 
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Ramirez
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Smith
 
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Gonzalez
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Hundley
 
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Ethier
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Amarista
 
C
Federowicz
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Jackson
 
RF
Baxter
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Gonzalez
 
3B
Rojas
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Urias
 
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Demel

A few weeks ago, Daren Willman added another search database to his excellent Baseball Savant website. The new database searches through scouting reports found on the Hall of Fame’s archives. It makes it easier to sort through the reports by team. Obviously, my first instinct was to search for Dodgers. Below are some of my favorite reports from the list.

Clayton Kershaw – 3/11/2006 - Report Link

Best quotes: “Dead ringer for Dave Righetti at the same edge”, “Likes to hit, has some power, but is where he belongs on the mound”, “Fits nicely in first round”

I can’t do anything but smile when I read this report. I think the pitch grades in relation to each other are fun. The scout gave Kershaw’s curve, slider, and change-up the same present grades. He also projected Kershaw’s slider to be his best off-speed pitch in the future, which is interesting since Kershaw didn’t really develop the pitch in the majors until 2011.

Matt Kemp – 4/16/2003 - Report Link

Best quote: “He presents an interesting package… Tools are there and so is size and strength”

When he was in the minors, Kemp had the reputation of being an extremely raw athlete with a lot of potential in his tools. This scouting report, filed when Kemp was in high school, had the same conclusion. It’s fun that Kemp’s hit tool was only listed as a “30”, but the scout projected a big improvement. Knowing what we know about Kemp’s peak, it’s nice to think about how far he advanced from the low present grades on the report.

Gilbert Bodet, the same scout who wrote the report on Kershaw, also filed this one. He evaluated Kemp as a fourth to sixth round pick and the Dodgers managed to get him at the end of that range. How did they use the fourth and fifth round picks that year? They selected Xavier Paul and Jordan Pratt.

James Loney – 3/30/2002 - Report Link

Best quote: “His mechanics to hit are very similar to that of Garret Anderson who was the same kind of hitter as HS player”, “Also a LHP but did not see him that way”

This is another Gilbert Bodet report. He was pretty high on Loney’s talent at the time, especially his defense. In terms of overall hitting ability, comparing Loney (105 career wRC+ without late career decline) to Anderson (100 career wRC+ with late career decline) isn’t too far off, though Anderson did it without the huge platoon splits. Given Bodet’s low grades in other scouting reports, the future 75 that he gave to Loney’s defense sticks out quite a bit. Loney was always very good at first for the Dodgers, but probably not quite to that magnitude. The 30 grade on running speed is amusing, too.

This high of an evaluation of Loney seems to be a “miss”, but given the talent Loney showed during his trip through the minors (and occasionally in the majors), it doesn’t seem that bad. The Dodgers drafted Loney in the first round, higher than what Bodet suggested in this report.

Darren Dreifort – 1993 (multiple) - Link 1 - Link 2

Best quotes: “Throws an overpowering and explosive fastball with well above average ML slider”, “Become a closer out of the bull pen”, “could be youngest closing pitcher in ML history”

Both of these reports aren’t from the Dodgers, so they show some interesting insight on how other organizations viewed Dreifort. Both the Angels and the Royals viewed him as a closer, but Dreifort only ended up with 11 saves in the majors. Neither of the reports could have seen Dreifort’s injuries coming, though. The superlatives given to Dreifort’s fastball, such as “overpowering”, don’t quite match what we’d say about it today (87 to 92 per the Royals report). Times have changed. Both reports also said that Dreifort had the ability to jump straight to the majors, which he did.

 
Dodgers (ss)
   
White Sox
 
7:05pm PT
   
Glendale, Ariz.
RF
Puig
 
CF
Eaton
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Turner
 
2B
Beckham
1B
Van Slyke
 
1B
Abreu
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Uribe
 
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Garcia
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Ellis
 
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Dunn
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Guerrero
 
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Viciedo
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Pederson
 
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Ramirez
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Figgins
 
3B
Gillaspie
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Kershaw
 
C
Flowers

Mike Piazza – 4/15/86 - Report Link

Best quote: “A long way to come with overall ability but worth selection on bat and power”

Piazza was famously a 62nd round draft pick, but this scouting report seems more positive. The highlighted quote definitely seems like something that would be selected earlier. I found the “2” rating on Piazza’s hit tool to be interesting (as well as the future “4”, far below where he ended up). He was also scouted as a first baseman on this report.

Sandy Koufax – 5/15/1954 - Report Link

Best quote: “Not interested in pro ball until he graduates”, “also plays first because of his hitting ability”, “has averaged 16 strikeouts per game this season”

Koufax’s Wikipedia article briefly mentions this scouting report, saying it was filed away and forgotten. That’s baffling, given how positive the language is. Perhaps the Dodgers were less inclined to pursue Koufax due to the interest in schooling that is stated on the report. Koufax tried out for a few other teams before the Dodgers finally signed him, and we all know what happened after that. The high grades are interesting, given how rocky Koufax was at the start of his career.

I also enjoyed the line about Koufax’s hitting, but that ended up being fairly inaccurate. Koufax was a terrible hitter during his career (-4.2 oWAR), but he did manage two home runs.

Today’s split-squad double header features some fun news. Julio Urias is on the roster for the afternoon game and is scheduled to pitch one inning. Of course, that game is one of the only spring training games that the Dodgers will not be televising this year.

We are now less than a week from baseball that counts.

Update: The Dodgers have announced that Urias will be starting the game in Demel’s place. They have also confirmed that there will not be a webcast from Camelback (which the White Sox do sometimes). I guess we’ll have to wait for first-hand reports from Dustin and the other media in Glendale.


About

Daniel Brim grew up in the Los Angeles area and remains a Dodger fan despite currently residing in Salem, MA. As an engineer, he’s fascinated by the math and science behind the game of baseball, which probably explains a lot. He started “Blog To The Score” in late 2013 to dig deeper into the numbers behind the Dodgers. In its brief lifespan, it gained attention from local and national media. You can find him spending too much time in the comments section or on Twitter.


480 comments
KMT59
KMT59

Can someone directly to a site that has all the current minor leaguers in camp. My daughter got a signature today that I don’t recognize. It looks like Cyler or Tyler Lish with and “s” or a 5 at the end

TellMyWifeISaidHello
TellMyWifeISaidHello

Trying to buy dodger tickets through ticket IQ. Not happy they are trying to charge me a shipping fee on E-Tickets

Boxxybabee
Boxxybabee

I'm glad the season is starting soon. I'm bored of exhibition games.

Hoze
Hoze

Well.. I will attend my first Quakes game this year

KMT59
KMT59

@Dustin Nosler @KMT59  next time I recommend this place...you can share with friends and they have seperate rooms

KMT59
KMT59

@Dustin Nosler @KMT59  not sure he had a warmup jacket on...but it looked like he signed it with the number 5 afterwards

KMT59
KMT59

@Sangro Azul  He look very sharp in person...worked fast and not too many of the balls were out of the zone

Dustin Nosler
Dustin Nosler moderator

@KMT59 Might have to do that. These cheapy hotel/motels just aren't cutting it.

KMT59
KMT59

@Dustin Nosler @KMT59 I got good at deciphering signatures last year when my brother game me a team ball signed by all the players and a number of rookies after the open house during the freeway series

I don't think it's dillion

I'll post a photo of it when I get back to SD...internet is too slow to load my high resolution photo's to imgur

Dustin Nosler
Dustin Nosler moderator

@KMT59Probably Dillon Moyer. He's No. 5 among position players. Was the Dodgers' 38th-rounder last year and is the son of Jamie Moyer.

ryus_hadouken
ryus_hadouken

@Disgruntled Goat "if you don't like pasta and sauce than why not add mushrooms or [insert ingredient here]" ? Since this is two items or more here. 


I'm not a chef though. So I'll leave that to them. lol

ryus_hadouken
ryus_hadouken

@Disgruntled Goat Also, the fact you put all those things on the toast tells me you must not be a fan of the taste. Why not eat it raw on toast? 

Lobo
Lobo

@DBrim @Lobo @capnsparrow @Hoze Yes but I wouldn't expect it to be an every start thing.  I really don't expect him to throw more than 120 innings tops this year

DBrim
DBrim moderator

@Lobo @capnsparrow @Hoze  They do have to stretch him out eventually. He was only going 3IP/start last season, figure he'll be up to 5 or so this year.

Lobo
Lobo

@capnsparrow @Hoze I doubt they let him go 6 innings with any frequency because I would imagine Urias is still going to have a low innings cap.  It wouldn't make sense to have him hit it in like July and have to sit out the rest of the season

DBrim
DBrim moderator

@capnsparrow @Hoze  What does he have left to do at Great Lakes, though? I expect him to start at Rancho.

LA_Woman
LA_Woman

@Dustin Nosler I'm about to faint! Definitely think I (we?) need to plan a road trip out to the desert.

Dustin Nosler
Dustin Nosler moderator

That Rancho team could be prospect-laden early on: Urias, Seager, Anderson, Windle. Quality over quantity.