Dee Gordon quietly changed his stance heading into 2014

Dee Gordon was terrible and something had to change.

From his debut in 2011 to being given the starting job in 2012 to fighting for a bench role in 2013, the former top prospect totaled a .256/.301/.312/.614 line that was good for 28 percent below league average. Worse yet, he was poor defensively, leading to a -0.8 WAR for his career.

This past off-season, Dee found position changes waiting for him, which seemed to signal that the Dodgers were priming him for a super utility role. But Dee spent the off-season lifting and learning how to play second base, and when the opportunity to earn a regular job presented itself, he took it and hit the ground running. Now he’s an All-Star with constantly improving defense to go along with an OPS ~100 points above his career averages despite recent struggles.

I initially chalked up his improvement at the plate to just getting stronger in the off-season and finally being able to utilize all the tools he has. But while I was doing research for my article on Matt Kemp‘s stance, I found that Dee also looked very different at the plate earlier in his career.


Here’s Dee setting up in 2012:


And here he is in 2013:


Don’t find anything different? You shouldn’t. Just note his straight up-and-down posture, his even stance with his feet, and that his hands are held high near the top of his helmet.

Now take a look at him in 2014:


A stark difference. Dee opened his stance a bit, holds his hands lower, and has a pronounced crouch now.

I think this has helped him this year for multiple reasons. For starters, it’s easier for him to get into his ideal bat path now. In his current setup, he’s basically already in his launch position, but in previous years, he had more movement with his hands and his head level would change as he strode forward into a more athletic position. Gordon’s ideal bat path is actually quite linear and flat, leading to his ground-ball tendencies, but they’ve become more pronounced this year, along with an increase in line drives. Already an extreme ground-ball hitter — he entered the season with just 22% of balls hit in the air and a GB/FB ratio of 2.5 — Gordon has become even more extreme in 2014, hitting just 19% of balls in the air and carrying a GB/FB ratio of 3.1.

Another advantage to his new setup is that by opening up his stance and dropping his hands — along with him adding strength through off-season work — he’s now able to get to inside pitches with authority. Previously, it was even easier to go after Dee on the inside portion of the plate because there was no threat that missing over the middle a bit would hurt.

As it stands now, Dee has set a career-high in homers (with two!) and leads the league in triples, primarily because of his pull power to the gaps.


Don’t get the facts wrong, though, Dee is still most effective going the other way or up the middle, but now there’s at least some risk that damage could be done by going after him hard inside. While Dee had previously posted about a ~.270 wOBA when pulling the ball, he’s up to .303 in 2014.


Earlier in the article, I mentioned his recent struggles. And they are struggles. Since July 8, he’s posted a .254/.279/.296/.575 line, which includes at 3/27 BB/K ratio. It also includes a .313 BABIP, so it’s not a luck-based decline.

So if it’s not his batting average, you know it’s the walk rate and the power. The former is still a major concern, in general, but the decline of the latter seems tied to stance changes he’s made recently.

Basically, my concern is that he’s regressing into old habits. Here’s Dee in April of this year against the Giants:


Gordon’s in the more compact, athletic setup that I discussed earlier.

But now take a July game against the Giants and look at his setup:


Dee’s hands are the same, but he’s now in a much more rigid, up-and-down stance.

Of course, I guess it wouldn’t matter a ton if everything was going smoothly, but here’s his batted ball distribution chart up until July:


And here it is from July on:


Besides the general batted ball distribution, where he’s hitting the ball hard has changed drastically.

In the first half of the year, Gordon pulled nine triples, two homers, and six of his 13 doubles. Since, he has one triple to center and only one of his five doubles have been pulled. Perhaps most telling is that the most frequent place Gordon used to line out to was first or second, indicating that he was pulling the ball hard. Now? He’s lining out to third on the infield almost exclusively.


Maybe there was a reason behind Dee altering his stance again, but I would be surprised if it happened on purpose considering how he was rolling and doing a lot of damage early in the year. The general philosophy in baseball is that if it isn’t broken, don’t fix it, so I have to assume that the recent changes are a gradual regression to old habits more than anything.

Mechanical changes helped pave Gordon’s path to success early in 2014, and a switch back to his first-half ways could be the key to his success for the stretch run in 2014 as well. And it’s important that Dee gets back on track, because he’s an explosive player who can generate runs in an instant for an offense that struggles to score in bunches due to a lack of power.

Overall, it’s just a bit worrying that Dee has recently looked more like his old self than ever, because he changed coming into this year for a reason.

Chad Moriyama


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Saw the comment below about Greinke and a possible "tired arm" ... does that situation EVER resolve itself without extra rest?


So Yu Darvish and Adrian Beltre passed waivers :)

DBrim moderator

Also, Texas isn't going to trade Yu Darvish.


@Mike Petriello @DBrim I don't understand why a team would put a player on waivers when they obviously have no interest in trading him.

I also don't understand why a team wouldn't put in a waiver claim on a player they could afford that would help the team.

The only thing I can conclude is that Mike nails it when he says "waivers are so, so dumb".


Is the rumor try that grinks has elbow concerns and we are skipping his start?


What three teams would you want to play in the post-season?
What three teams would you want to avoid in the post-season?

For me, I'd want to play the Gnats, the Nationals, and the Orioles. I'd want to skip, the Cards, the Brewers, and the Angels.


If you made me choose I would say I want to play the cards, orioles, giants and avoid the brewers, nats, angels


I'm okay playing all of them. I'm not especially scared of the brewers even though they beat is a lot this season. I don't think that is especially relevant


@thestevesaxtrio I would want to play any AL team.  Because that means we won the pennant and made it to the World Series for the first time since 1988. LOL!

I'm not particularly scared of any team - just because it's such a crapshoot.  What I mean by that is, the better team doesn't always win, so even if you think any given team is the best we might face (and possibly better than the Dodgers), that doesn't necessarily mean we would lose to them.  For example, I think the 2013 Dodgers were better than the Cards that beat us, and the 2009 Dodgers were not as good as the Cards we swept.

If the Dodgers are going to win in the postseason, we will need to play better than, and be hotter than, our opponents.  That's what it takes to go all the way.  And if we can't do that, then we won't.  Simple as that.


I found this mildly humorous 


Is Goat turning into Eephus?